{"id":80,"date":"2019-01-25T13:16:41","date_gmt":"2019-01-25T11:16:41","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/webs.uab.cat\/txicc\/2019\/01\/25\/noms-propis-mes-enlla-del-pinyin\/"},"modified":"2019-01-25T13:16:41","modified_gmt":"2019-01-25T11:16:41","slug":"noms-propis-mes-enlla-del-pinyin","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/webs.uab.cat\/txicc\/2019\/01\/25\/noms-propis-mes-enlla-del-pinyin\/","title":{"rendered":"Noms propis: m\u00e9s enll\u00e0 del pinyin"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Aquesta setmana, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.vilaweb.cat\/noticies\/hong-kong-proposta-castigar-himne-xina\">Hong Kong presenta una proposta de llei per castigar els qui no respectin l\u2019himne de la Xina<\/a>, tal com veiem a Vilaweb. Francesc Canals tamb\u00e9 ens apropava a Hong Kong dimecres al migdia per informar d\u2019aquesta not\u00edcia. Esmentava Joshua Wong, activista pol\u00edtic i estudiantil, i entrevistava Tony Chueng, aficionat de futbol. Vilaweb tamb\u00e9 inclou unes paraules de Simon Hung, professora de secund\u00e0ria.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align:center\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Captura de pantalla de la not\u00edcia de TV3 on apareix Tony Chueng parlant\" height=\"302\" src=\"http:\/\/grupsderecerca.uab.cat\/txicc\/sites\/grupsderecerca.uab.cat.txicc\/files\/tv3.jpg\" width=\"533\" \/><\/p>\n<p class=\"rtecenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.ccma.cat\/tv3\/alacarta\/telenoticies-migdia\/telenoticies-migdia-23012019\/video\/5815477\/\">Telenot\u00edcies Migdia del 23 de gener de 2019<\/a>&nbsp;(a partir del minut 24:03)<\/p>\n<p class=\"rtecenter\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Si ens seguiu a les xarxes haureu notat la nostra insist\u00e8ncia en l\u2019\u00fas correcte del pinyin en la transcripci\u00f3 de noms propis xinesos, at\u00e8s que aquest \u00e9s el sistema de transcripci\u00f3 que es promou des de la Rep\u00fablica Popular de la Xina. El pinyin \u00e9s \u00fatil perqu\u00e8&nbsp;ajuda a unificar criteris i evita diverses transcripcions per a un mateix nom.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align:center\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"imatge d'un Tweet - L'Helena Casas recomana l'\u00fas del pinyin\" height=\"502\" src=\"http:\/\/grupsderecerca.uab.cat\/txicc\/sites\/grupsderecerca.uab.cat.txicc\/files\/pinyin_twitter.jpg\" width=\"460\" \/><\/p>\n<p class=\"rtecenter\">Fotografia del dia de presentaci\u00f3 de la <em>Guia d&#8217;estil per al tractament de mots xinesos en catal\u00e0, <\/em>el 14 d\u2019abril de 2015 al Col\u00b7legi de Periodistes (Barcelona)<\/p>\n<p class=\"rtecenter\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Tamb\u00e9 recomanem mantenir l\u2019ordre cognom + nom del xin\u00e8s. Aix\u00ed, per exemple, cal parlar de Mao Zedong (en comptes de Mao Tse-Tung), Deng Xiaoping, Ding Ling o Fan Bingbing, per citar alguns dels exemples m\u00e9s coneguts.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ara b\u00e9,&nbsp; com encaixen noms com el de <em>Joshua Wong<\/em> o <em>Simon Hung<\/em>&nbsp;en aquesta norma? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>La norma del pinyin per als noms propis t\u00e9 algunes excepcions. En primer lloc, en el cas de persones que han adoptat un nom occidental, cal respectar la forma adoptada. Joshua Wong i Simon Hung en s\u00f3n exemples, per\u00f2 en tenim de molt coneguts: al m\u00f3n del cinema (Jackie Chan o Maggie Cheung), a l\u2019esport (Jeremy Lin), a la literatura (Dorothy Tse) o a l\u2019art (Jimmy Liao), entre molts altres \u00e0mbits. L\u2019adopci\u00f3 de noms occidentals \u00e9s for\u00e7a freq\u00fcent a Hong Kong, Taiwan i Macao, aix\u00ed com a d\u2019altres zones de la di\u00e0spora xinesa arreu del m\u00f3n.<\/p>\n<p>D\u2019altra banda, tal com veiem a la <em>Guia:<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"rteindent1\">En el cas de noms de persones de Hong Kong i Taiwan, recomanem l\u2019\u00fas de la transcripci\u00f3 pr\u00f2pia i, si \u00e9s necessari, afegir-hi el pinyin entre par\u00e8ntesis, com ara Ma Ying-jeou (Ma Yingjiu), sobretot pel que fa a noms de personatges que s\u00f3n particularment coneguts amb sistemes de transcripci\u00f3 diferents del pinyin, com ara el de Chiang Kai-shek. (Casas-Tost, 2015: 36)<\/p>\n<p>A Taiwan i Hong Kong tradicionalment s\u2019ha fet servir el sistema de transcripci\u00f3 Wade-Giles, diferent del pinyin, d\u2019on v\u00e9nen noms com els dels directors de cinema Wong Kar-wai (\u738b\u5bb6\u885b, Wang Jiawei en pinyin) o Hou Hsiao-hsien (\u4faf\u5b5d\u8ce2, Hou Xiaoxian en pinyin).<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p class=\"rtecenter\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture\" allowfullscreen=\"\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"315\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/Meix1MRPzeg\" width=\"560\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p class=\"rtecenter\">V\u00eddeo elaborat per la Filmoteca de Catalunya amb motiu del cicle dedicat a Hou Hsiao-hsien (del 2 de novembre al 15 de desembre del 2017)<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>A la <em>Guia d&#8217;estil per al tractament de mots xinesos en catal\u00e0 <\/em>teniu un cap\u00edtol sencer dedicat als antrop\u00f2nims. Tamb\u00e9 hi trobareu m\u00e9s explicacions sobre el pinyin i els diversos sistemes de transcripci\u00f3 que hi ha hagut a la Xina. Si encara teniu dubtes, feu-hi un cop d\u2019ull!<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Refer\u00e8ncies:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Casas-Tost, Helena; Rovira-Esteva, Sara, ed. <em>Guia d&#8217;estil per al tractament de mots xinesos en catal\u00e0<\/em>. Barcelona: Generalitat de Catalunya. Departament de Cultura, 2015. (Biblioteca t\u00e8cnica de pol\u00edtica ling\u00fc\u00edstica; 2). URL:&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/ddd.uab.cat\/record\/133473\">https:\/\/ddd.uab.cat\/record\/133473<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Casas-Tost, Helena. \u00abAntrop\u00f2nims\u00bb. A: Casas-Tost, Helena; Rovira-Esteva, Sara, ed. <em>Guia d&#8217;estil per al tractament de mots xinesos en catal\u00e0<\/em>. Barcelona: Generalitat de Catalunya. Departament de Cultura, 2015, pp. 34-37. (Biblioteca t\u00e8cnica de pol\u00edtica ling\u00fc\u00edstica; 2). URL: <a href=\"https:\/\/ddd.uab.cat\/record\/133473\">https:\/\/ddd.uab.cat\/record\/133473<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Mireia Vargas-Urpi<\/p>\n<p>TXICC<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Aquesta setmana, Hong Kong presenta una proposta de llei per castigar els qui no respectin l\u2019himne de la Xina, tal com veiem a Vilaweb. Francesc Canals tamb\u00e9 ens apropava a Hong Kong dimecres al migdia per informar d\u2019aquesta not\u00edcia. Esmentava Joshua Wong, activista pol\u00edtic i estudiantil, i entrevistava Tony Chueng, aficionat de futbol. 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